Fighting AI Scams with Patrick Coughlin of Savi Security
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Fighting AI Scams with Patrick Coughlin of Savi Security

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Episode description

The scariest scam calls don’t sound like strangers anymore. They sound like family.

Ryo Koyama and Mike Johnson talk to Patrick Coughlin, CEO of Savi Security and author of Dark Side of the Boom, about how AI has turned scamming into the fastest growing crime in the country, from an AI-cloned kidnapping call aimed at his own mother to a voice-cloned scam that fooled one of Remote.it’s own employees.

Patrick talks about why scams go underreported, why every family should have a safe word, and why he thinks the real danger isn’t a rogue AI model, but the quiet flood of AI-powered scams already hitting everyday people’s phones.

Chapters

  • 0:04 — Intro
  • 0:21 — Who is Patrick Coughlin, and how did Savi Security start?
  • 1:07 — The AI-powered kidnapping scam that targeted Patrick’s mother
  • 2:43 — The AI voice clone scam that hit Remote.it’s team
  • 5:48 — What is Dark Side of the Boom, and why did Patrick write it?
  • 8:09 — The four types of imposter scams driving digital fraud
  • 11:47 — Why so few victims ever report being scammed
  • 14:08 — Rogue AI models, autonomous cyberattacks, and what could go catastrophically wrong
  • 18:38 — Family safe words and practical ways to protect your family
  • 22:25 — Scamwise, a free tool to check if something is a scam
  • 23:13 — Who pays when AI fraud reaches a breaking point?
  • 25:56 — Is regulation the answer, or is it already too late?
  • 31:55 — AI hot take

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0:00Intro
0:24Who is Patrick Coughlin, and how did Savi Security start?
1:15The AI-powered kidnapping scam that targeted Patrick's mother
2:43The AI voice clone scam that hit Remote.it's team
5:48What is Dark Side of the Boom, and why did Patrick write it?
8:09The four types of imposter scams driving digital fraud
11:50Why so few victims ever report being scammed
14:10Rogue AI models, autonomous cyberattacks, and what could go catastrophically wrong
18:43Family safe words and practical ways to protect your family
22:32Scamwise, a free tool to check if something is a scam
23:14Who pays when AI fraud reaches a breaking point?
25:56Is regulation the answer, or is it already too late?
31:59AI hot take